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Quandt stated that drivers testing does block it off. Janie said overnight parking is not an issue <br /> with the new layout she wasn't sure where the county vehicles will park Riehle stated that this <br /> will be safer for the testing. With the island it can be conned off and the area will accommodate <br /> their needs. It will be safer and will involve some enforcement where to park the overnight <br /> parking. Janie thought the 20 feet was the turnaround but they will be able to use the 30 feet to <br /> turn around. It will be safer. <br /> Arnold this will be at a slower speed to show that they can maneuver the vehicle there will be <br /> room. As it is designed it will meet their needs. <br /> Quandt it meets their need and but the county lost 3000 square feet of parking because of the <br /> island size it is 22.6 feet. Richardson stated that this was discussed 2 weeks ago. <br /> Quandt feels that the island is too wide and suggested using the 10.6 foot island. Riehle <br /> thought the 20 buffer had to be exclusive of the curb based on discussions with drivers testing <br /> does not have to be. . <br /> Richardson stated the board voted on the plan. Quandt explained that the radius will fit. He <br /> cannot make a motion. <br /> Arnold make a motion to reduce each through island and shrink it by 4 foot would make the <br /> island 18 foot. A wider island is easier to maintain he would like to see some trees. No second <br /> motion failed <br /> Bredthauer noted the issue with the island at college park there is perpetual care on the island <br /> how long do we want to pay for perpetual care. There will be enough green space. Does not <br /> want the taxpayer to have to pay for perpetual care on the island. <br /> Lancaster this exactly why there should be work study sessions. The board members did not <br /> have enough time to make decision. Noted the Railside downtown it is concrete. There is grass <br /> around the parking lot now and it is not attractive need to maintain what we have. <br /> Lancaster motion and Lanfear seconded to accept the 10.6 foot island as an addendum to the <br /> current parking lot plan. <br /> Lanfear all this drama on the width of an island this is a new low the width was put in by simple <br /> math. Doug ask when the amendment would be done and it is ready to go. Riehle stated that it <br /> would be a $3000 to $5000 amendment. Arnold stated it will cost more for the concrete. <br /> Bredthauer noted the cost of the sprinklers, the maintenance for the trees. The concrete will be <br /> cheaper. <br /> Quandt noted it is important to make it wider to back the vehicles out and cost less for <br /> maintenance on the island. <br /> Richardson stated that this will be the things that will be discussed at a work study session and <br /> this will slow things down she is taking the recommendations of the engineers and architect they <br /> are the professionals. <br /> Noted that if an island is less than 10 feet then it would need to be concrete and if it is wider it <br /> will improve maneuverability. <br /> 5 <br />